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About a year ago I decided to purchase a custom guitar from Christopher Woods. I checked for feedback on him on this forum before I did so, and while a few comments were negative most were neutral or positive. The guitar I was purchasing was half completed and a delivery date of 3 months was estimated. In the interest of expediting the process I offered to pay the full price of the guitar rather than half up front, I mean he's reputable business man right? :roll:

Over the course of 1 year I received various excuses for delays by email.

2 months ago I told Christopher Woods I would like to cancel the order because it was over 8 months overdue for delivery and no progress had been made, and the guitar was even half done when we started. He agreed to cancel the order and refund the payment.

For the last 2 months I've received various excuses about why I have not received the refund for the payment. He says he is moving to a new shop, but that really doesn't have anything to do with refunding a transaction on Paypal, which is something that takes about 5 minutes assuming you have the money and aren't a fraudster.

I've been extremely patient and reasonable and 100% of all correspondence has been carefully documented as email evidence, but Paypal is uninterested since the initial transaction was almost a year ago and wasn't through Ebay :roll: (remind to start up my own fraudulent payment receiving website using Paypal, apparently they don't really give a shit).

Does anyone have any information on this guy? I'm going to be contacting the authorities in this area on this one and if they fail to act to recover my money I may have to pay him a visit myself.


Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:08 pm
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Post Re: Christopher Woods
I've emailed himn a few times about making me a PGM 800 replica, but nothing ever went down business wise. He's the same guy that was selling the ghostrider replicas, and he himself has posted on here before under the name "CWR" im pretty sure...
He seems like he's had a pretty good reputation, so hearing these things is a bit strange.
Maybe he is a scammer? Idk...seems like he's pulling a fast one on you, Parlance...
He seemed pretty friendly with me in our email chats. But that doesn't compare at all seeing as though I put no money down on a job or anything, like you did...
Hope this helps!


Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:15 pm
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Are you Evil? JOEEE wrote:
He's the same guy that was selling the ghostrider replicas, and he himself has posted on here before under the name "CWR" im pretty sure...


I know CWR. He is not Chris woods.

CWR made his replicas of the double neck PGM, the orange PGM, and a George Lynch bones guitar at Chris Woods shop a few years ago. If I remember correctly he pretty much built them himself using Chris woods equipment.

From Chris' new website he recently moved from California to Tennessee, so if you tried to get in contact with him recently he probably is pretty busy with the move.

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I've got bad news for you: http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f29/chris ... pher+woods

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I think he was once a good guy, that got greedy and has now ruined himself

I bet he just took a few orders, made a few $1000 started on guitar number 1, then more orders came in and rather than turning down a wad of cash he just took it all. Eventually he has 50 guitars on the go but cant shut up shop for 5 years to do them as he needs to earn money.... so he takes more orders....

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xjustice09x wrote:
Are you Evil? JOEEE wrote:
He's the same guy that was selling the ghostrider replicas, and he himself has posted on here before under the name "CWR" im pretty sure...


I know CWR. He is not Chris woods.

CWR made his replicas of the double neck PGM, the orange PGM, and a George Lynch bones guitar at Chris Woods shop a few years ago. If I remember correctly he pretty much built them himself using Chris woods equipment.

From Chris' new website he recently moved from California to Tennessee, so if you tried to get in contact with him recently he probably is pretty busy with the move.


So I suppose this information is out-dated?

Chris Woods
21337 E. Calora St.
Covina, California 91724
United States
(310) 403-2540

He just registered a domain for his new website less than a month ago and failed to pay the registrar the additional amount to keep the WHOIS registry information private. The phone number leads directly to voicemail. I suppose the least I can do is helpfully inform his registrar that his registered information is not valid and invalidate his ownership of the domain, then register myself and point to hardcore gay pornography.


Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:53 pm
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As an added bonus here is a picture of his house, which I suppose he may be in the process of moving out of (the one with the white car).

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Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:58 pm
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I wish i lived near him.... thats all I can say

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Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:56 pm
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Well I've gone and filed the necessary reports with Paypal fraud services, RECOL (our Canada-wide international fraud tracking service) and my local police department who will be contacting the local authorities in Covina California. If criminal proceedings don't pan out I'll try a civil suit next. It's truly unbelievable he thought he could get away with this.


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I hope he gets what he deserves, for your sake, Parlance.

Bad business practise, and a bad bad guy for doing so.

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