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 Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series? 
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Post Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
Rumor has it the entire Fuzz Universe cd was done solely with the Fireman. Do you think PG is done with the PGM series as a regular recording and live guitar? If so, do you feel, as most of us have more than one PGM, betrayed by such a move?


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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
That isn't a rumor. Paul said in at least 2 interviews (one was in Japanese and translated very poorly - so this is a paraphrase!) that the entire album was recorded with Fireman models - the Bach Partita was done with the Kikusui humbucker model, and the other songs were done with single coils. Beyond that I have no idea - cannot help. I can source the quotes/URL's though if you need them.

I would be very hesitant to say, based on one recording, what Paul is or is not doing, future-guitar-wise. He experiments and changes his gear lineup all the time. He's been known to record with non-Ibanez in the past... most recently, something on SFBADR - I forget what exactly (it had to do with the Sustainer pickup so it was probably Suite Modale)... and it never led to an abandonment. He was saying (Vintage Guitar interview IIRC) he fancied a Barney Kessel guitar (Gibson IIRC) and he hasn't abandoned Ibanez - not by a long shot. It's probably best to hold your fire and just see what happens... he's probably just tinkering with his tone / making his job more interesting / having fun!

+ He performed in 2009 with a LOT of F Holed PGM's - check out the NAMM videos. :)

The Fireman is PGM FRM in the Ibanez catalogs, so even if he worked just with Fireman models he is still quite deep in to PGM territory. Maybe a better question is, did he abandon the faux F Holes? His Artist has real F Holes and his Firemen have none. :)

disclaimer: I could be wrong, and I don't own any PGM's.

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
Well, everything changes over time. He played with pretty much the same looking guitars for like what, 20 years? I guess he just got tired of it already, just like mindless shredding, and he needed something new. The FRM supports Paul with a great tone so I'm thinking the change was good (unlike switching to Marshall imo).

Although if we were to see another heavy metal album, it would have to be recorded with a PGM :P

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
ummmm the Fireman is a PGM.


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I think it's still a PGM but I suppose design wise (tone/looks/etc), then it's a different thing. I guess, yeah, maybe for now he's putting the original PGMs to rest but I'm sure he'll use them again :D


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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
Pewtershmit wrote:
ummmm the Fireman is a PGM.


by name sure

but when you say to someone "i have a pgm" they think of an rg with f holes painted on

if you have a fireman you say "i have a fireman" i cant imagine anyone with a fireman saying "i have a pgm"

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
MissMisstreater wrote:
Pewtershmit wrote:
ummmm the Fireman is a PGM.


by name sure

but when you say to someone "i have a pgm" they think of an rg with f holes painted on

if you have a fireman you say "i have a fireman" i cant imagine anyone with a fireman saying "i have a pgm"



You're 1 post off 4,000 PC, how hot is that. And I agree If you dropped like 6k+ on a fireman, that's what you're going to call it. ;D

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Wellp. If there are no more PGMs, there better at least be some kind of release of the Orange PGM.

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
Pewtershmit wrote:
ummmm the Fireman is a PGM.



Well, the headstock on my Fireman doesn't say PGM.


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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
well it is a PAUL GILBERT MODEL isnt it ?

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
gatxman wrote:
well it is a PAUL GILBERT MODEL isnt it ?


True but it doesn't mean much anymore. I think I'll sell the rest of my PGM's. Too bad the 301 I have on the 'bay is stuck at $1000.


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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
Jack Secret wrote:
gatxman wrote:
well it is a PAUL GILBERT MODEL isnt it ?


True but it doesn't mean much anymore. I think I'll sell the rest of my PGM's.


Oh grow up, FFS.


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refer to my previous reply in the other topic

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
Zae wrote:
there better at least be some kind of release of the Orange PGM.


To be honest it's a case of different guitars for different things. I know Paul's said in the past that he believes there's at least one song in each guitar, due to the inspiration and the emotions brought about by each guitar. We know Paul got the red and blue Firemen recently, so maybe he was just inspired more to write on these guitars and used them for the record?

I'm sure the regular PGM's will still have their place, maybe more for Mr. Big stuff who knows?

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
damn i feel so sad now.....


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damn i feel so sad now.....


Don't feel sad, all you gotta do is ask Ken to change your name to "fireman_lover"



...on second thought. :? :P

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
P.S. My theory is that as long as Paul abandons Racer X... the PGMs will be abandoned. What kind of guitars was Paul playing with Racer X at the NAMM show? PG FUCKING Ms. (All of them actually)

If you want the PGMs back then demand Racer X!! :D

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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
u mean demand back mr big???? cause he was wif mr big when the pgms were produced..... :D


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u mean demand back mr big???? cause he was wif mr big when the pgms were produced..... :D


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Post Re: Has Paul Gilbert abandoned the PGM series?
seeing this confirms it!!!! he has abandoned the pgm guitar line.......


owhhh mannnn!!!!!! and i was just getting pgm hyped this year......





sigh........ :(


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