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 Learning Racer X songs.... your method? 
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New to the forum, hello to all!! what is your approach to learning the songs.. do you work only on one song at a time till its under the fingers.. then slowly increase speed.. for many year racer x songs have been out of reach for me.. but i have improved and have recommitted to learning them!! what is your approach?? does working on more than one at a time hurt or help??
right know i am working on scarified, TD, and Viking Kong!! any other suggestons ?? every guitar playing racer x fan should be able to play???


Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:05 am
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First what I do, is I read the tabs. Then I go over it in my head and picture doing it. Then I put my guitar down, go into a corner, roll into the fetus position, and cry.


And that's how you "learn" Racer X. :P


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well i was lucky and could play racer x songs when i found out about thhem, BUTT ( :lol:) before that i really liked cacophony and tried learning their songs. i watched both jasons and martys videos went through licks and one day i was just able to play savage and really well but yea it takes alot of practice and metronome and slow playing. oh yea theory always helps especially when u try figuring out songs


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I find theory gets in the way when trying to learn cacophony :lol:

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Refried Bean wrote:
First what I do, is I read the tabs. Then I go over it in my head and picture doing it. Then I put my guitar down, go into a corner, roll into the fetus position, and cry.


And that's how you "learn" Racer X. :P


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all his licks, or at least variations of his licks are in his instructional dvds are in his instructional dvds, i'd start there :)

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gatxman wrote:
Refried Bean wrote:
First what I do, is I read the tabs. Then I go over it in my head and picture doing it. Then I put my guitar down, go into a corner, roll into the fetus position, and cry.


And that's how you "learn" Racer X. :P


+1 :cry:



Ahaha, that is soo true :D






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i have a program on the computer which costs about $20 for licenced version, you can slow tracks down by upto 50% without changing the pitch and you can split it up into small pieces, then you can learn the songs at a slower pace and get them just right. It is at www.desktopmetronome.com and is called phrase trainer. You can place any mp3 track into it.If you have donloaded an album from itunes you cannot convert it, but it is well worth it.Amazing when slowed down you can get the patterns just right


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Transcribe is best program i know of for slowing down.

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Windows Media Player does it for free.

To the original poster, are you talking about actually being able to play the songs ie. technique/speed-wise, or about how to learn and remember so many notes and licks etc.

I am physically cabpable of playing a lot of this stuff, but its the actual learning of the songs that gets in the way for me. I find I have to break each section down and get that totally memorized, then move onto the next.

Im working on Norwegian Cowbell at the moment and have only just gotten to the first slow, solo-y type bit. Sight reading from tab I can play the whole thing. Trying to remember it all is the hard bit for me. DAMN YOU WEED, YOU SCREWED UP MY MEMORY!!


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Once I learn something, it all comes down to muscle memory. I just let my fingers play it, even if I wouldn't actually be able to write it down for someone if I didn't know it THAT well.

But like someone already said, if you know most of Paul's common licks, you'll realize they're scattered about all over the place, especially in the earlier stuff.


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mattanna wrote:
If you have donloaded an album from itunes you cannot convert it, but it is well worth it.


You can convert songs bought in itunes to mp3. You first have to burn the tracks in itunes to a cd (put them in a playlist and burn the playlist to cd), then rip the songs off the cd as mp3's.

Its kind of a pain, and can take a while if you have a huge collection of songs purchased in itunes. But if you really need it in mp3, or want to bypass the DRM on the itunes purchased tracks it can be done.

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Of course just as well you canplay the song on pc (i.e. in winamp) and set any recording app to record form audio mix/wave/whatever (the point is that it records the sounds from pc and not mic/line in) ;) .


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Once I learn something, it all comes down to muscle memory


i think thats how i do it aswell.
i have to play a piece over and over again till my hand plays it automatically.
i guess its impossible for the brain to actually think about every note you play (if ur shredding)


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You could try the program Best Practice too.


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tim wrote:
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Once I learn something, it all comes down to muscle memory


i think thats how i do it aswell.
i have to play a piece over and over again till my hand plays it automatically.
i guess its impossible for the brain to actually think about every note you play (if ur shredding)


Exactly.


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I have slowed everything way down playing small sections 11 times perfect before increasing the tempo. This has worked wonders after about 20 min the muscle memory kicks in and then it switches to staying relaxed, and playing it up to speed. You guys work on one song at a time till completed or more than one talking hard songs here?


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Detox wrote:
I have slowed everything way down playing small sections 11 times perfect before increasing the tempo.


why 11 times? is there something special about this number? xD


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Taken from a Vai masterclass "its one more than ten" !!


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