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 Attenuators. 

Needs an attenuator for high gain (in my room)
VC50 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
GH100L 50%  50%  [ 2 ]
Neither need, you idiot! 50%  50%  [ 2 ]
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Superhero
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Yet another dilemma!

If I get the VC15, I won't need an attenuator.
If I get the VC50, I was ALWAYS under the impression that I would.

Apparently the VC50 has stupid amounts of gain, and even below 1! It sounds great!
I've even been told that the Gh100L sounds great < 1 as well!

Okay, now this is confusing me.
What do you think??


Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:19 am
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There is not much volume difference in volume between a 50 and a 100 watt amp. The 50 watt will get you that nice tube sound at a lower volume, but is still really loud. Even if the VC50 sounds great at low volume it probably sounds even better when cranked. I always use a hot plate with my Mesa Boogie Single Rectifier (50 watts).

If you are happy of your amp at low volume without an attenuator thats all that matters. If you prefer the sound of it cranked then get an attenuator.

Personally I would probably get the VC15, but I don't have a need for a higher power amp. I am not in a band and don't plan to play gigs where I would need the extra volume. If you are in a band you may want a higher power amp.

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What a coincidence! I was about to make a topic about attenuators myself, heh. Apologies for hijacking your thread man, but does anyone have anything to say about the Weber attenuator? I'm probably going to get one for my Legacy as I'm finding almost but not quite satisfactory at low volumes. If I could just push the tubes a few hairs more at the volume I'm using now I think it would smooth out the tone nicely. Thoughts?

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Hey, it's all good.

I'm one of those advocates for 50W isn't much less than 100W, considering twice as loud = 10x. so 500W is 2x as loud as 50, I'm a stickler for when people say 100W is ridiculously more.

BAH.

It's something like %13?

Gah. I'm not planning on gigging anytime soon, no. Even if I did it would be small. There's something in 4 - 5 months, but it's only 200 people, sitting down at watching at that. 15W tube is plenty.

So the vc15 is more up my alley?


Ok. Here. To end all the dilemma

lead TONE

is better with -

VC15 + OCD
VC50 + low volume


Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:10 am
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you don't need an attenuator with the GH100L

You best be bidding on that VC50!

If u don't win it get a GH50L

Don't buy a Laney cab

Fast as i have to go work in tesco now!

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Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:26 am
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I never use attenuators. I think they affect the tone. But that is my opinion.


Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:09 am
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a 100W is 3db louder than a 50W

they just have more headroom, which means they stay cleaner for longer, u have to crank them up to get them to distort.


I hear the weber Mass 150's are good, and also the Ho attentuators.

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Woo! Thanks.

I am so torn what to do.

Another question, not to hijack my own thread, but I want to replace the speaker in my AD15VT, and I'm going to get the "G8" from celestion. Obviously they don't make it anymore, but there is one on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-Celestion-G8-Vi ... 240%3A1318

What does "NOS" mean?
And what the heck! I'm pretty sure my amp is only 8ohm's, and that sucker is 16! Anything I can do about that?

EDIT:

"Gah. I'm not planning on gigging anytime soon, no.
Even if I did it would be small. There's something in 4 - 5 months, but it's only 200 people, sitting down at watching at that. 15W tube is plenty.

So the vc15 is more up my alley?


Ok. Here. To end all the dilemma

lead TONE

is better with -

VC15 + OCD
VC50 + low volume"


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pgm992 wrote:
What does "NOS" mean?
And what the heck! I'm pretty sure my amp is only 8ohm's, and that sucker is 16! Anything I can do about that?


NOS is new old stock. Most new old stock stuff is new and unused, but discontinued or no longer manufactured. In my amp I use NOS tubes from the 70's and 80's.

I guess you could put an 8 ohm resistor in parallel to reduce the load to 8 ohms, but it would have to be a pretty big resistor to handle that kind of power. I wouldn't recommend going that route. I would look for a different speaker with the correct impedance rating.

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