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 The "Billy Sheehan" bass squeal 
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Does anyone know how he makes his bass squeal? How does his does his harmonics so quickly? Does he have some sort of technique?

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WTFSHINOWAY!?

Anyone know?

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Lots-o-distortion.

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When he came to Chile to make a clinic, I saw that he had something on the back of the fretboard, so he pulls his bass to the front and the harmonics just sounds....
Something like Jaco did...
Even though, I would lie if I tell you that he has this or that on there...

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Actually, I take back my previous post. What I meant to say is gain, not distortion. Big difference.

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The gain comes primarily from his pickup settings, right? He has two seperate channels for each pickup, would that constitute for the gain?

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..hmm.

I always thought gain and distortion were the same. :oops:

whats the differance? :?: :?:


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Gain is what is used to get distortion. You can get quite a bit of sustain by raising the gain on your amp, but not pushing it too far (especially if you have two different gain stages like on a ADA). Distortion is when you've pushed the guitar signal to the point of breaking up.

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so how do you know when you've gone past gain and into distortion. also, what's the difference between gain, distortion, and overdrive.


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Hey Guys,

My suggestion to you for figuring out how he does it is to watch him live. Billy Sheehan does it the same way Zakk Wylde and Paul Gilbert do. He is actually pickin the sring with his thumb and has his index finger on the top side of the string and produces the harmonic. Like when Paul brushes his thumb against the string to get an artificial harmonic...its the same concept. He strikes.and brushes and thats it. Its hard to explain. I suggest tryin to find any vids possible and watching him do it.

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chemical_ali wrote:
so how do you know when you've gone past gain and into distortion. also, what's the difference between gain, distortion, and overdrive.


If you've ever heard blues players play with a clean tone & had a note sustain forever. That's gain. There's a decent amount pushing the guitar signal so that it sustains but doesn't break up. As far overdrive, I would describe that as taking that same signal & pushing past the threshold & having it break up. Sort of like an old Marshall, think AC/DC. Distortion is a more smooth controled version of that, not as brittle. I think technically the wave form isn't as jagged as overdrive. Something like that. Hope I've helped.

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I'm by no means an expert...so feel free to rip away...


Distortion is a byproduct of Overdriving. You can create distortion artificially (ie: a pedal) or you can create it by overdriving (as Go49er says) or pushing beyond and causing the signal to break up.

You can also use an artificial pedal to distort an already distorted signal.


As Paul once told me why he likes Laney Amps. In his opinion, when other amps distort...it sounds like a blanket being placed over the signal...some amps have really really nice blankets...but it's a blanket still the same.

Which is why most people prefer the distortion created from overdriving the amp at the source, instead of taking a clean signal...intercepting it through a pedal and spitting out a distorted signal. Some do it well....some don't...but in the end..it's still fake.

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so is paul gilbert saying that laney amps don't put a blanket on like the others? and what does the blanket do again? also, how do you know when the signal is starting to "break up?"


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You will hear it. Depending on what type of amp you have, your sound won't be as clean. By "breaking up" we're talking about low levels of distortion. I use AC/DC as an example. Listen to "Jailbreak". Now the sound on the rhythm is not exactly clean, but it's not overly distorted either. That's what I mean when I say "breaking up". Sorry for any confusion.

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