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GTRMAN wrote:
Yep.. Unfortunately, the "conservatives" in this country won't allow for that. Unfortunately, this is the only way to legally go about it.
W H A T ??

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Sandman wrote:
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Tell me something. Have you ever had a pet that was so sick or feeble that you had them euthanized because you didn't want to see them suffer? You were showing compassion. The same kind of compassion I'm supporting in this case.
I think this is a pretty good analogy, but the only flaw is that I wouldn't starve my pet to death. I'd make it quick. Wouldn't you agree?

It's not appropriate to apply the same ethical standards to animals, (even pets), that we do to fellow human beings.
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GTRMAN wrote:
Yep.. Unfortunately, the "conservatives" in this country won't allow for that. Unfortunately, this is the only way to legally go about it.
OOOOOOH! :evil: Damn those conservatives, eh Gtrman?

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Sandman wrote:
Rich L. wrote:
GTRMAN wrote:
Tell me something. Have you ever had a pet that was so sick or feeble that you had them euthanized because you didn't want to see them suffer? You were showing compassion. The same kind of compassion I'm supporting in this case.
I think this is a pretty good analogy, but the only flaw is that I wouldn't starve my pet to death. I'd make it quick. Wouldn't you agree?

It's not appropriate to apply the same ethical standards to fellow human beings that we do to animals (even pets).


Why not? Aren't animals living, breathing, THINKING and emotional beings as well?

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Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:36 pm
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Rich L. wrote:
GTRMAN wrote:
Yep.. Unfortunately, the "conservatives" in this country won't allow for that. Unfortunately, this is the only way to legally go about it.
OOOOOOH! :evil: Damn those conservatives, eh Gtrman?


Is it not true?

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GTRMAN wrote:
Rich L. wrote:
GTRMAN wrote:
Yep.. Unfortunately, the "conservatives" in this country won't allow for that. Unfortunately, this is the only way to legally go about it.
OOOOOOH! :evil: Damn those conservatives, eh Gtrman?

Is it not true?

No, it's not.

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Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:38 pm
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GTRMAN wrote:
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It's not appropriate to apply the same ethical standards to fellow human beings that we do to animals (even pets).

Why not? Aren't animals living, breathing, THINKING and emotional beings as well?

Well, okay. Just know you're way out of the mainstream.

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GTRMAN wrote:
Sandman wrote:
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GTRMAN wrote:
Tell me something. Have you ever had a pet that was so sick or feeble that you had them euthanized because you didn't want to see them suffer? You were showing compassion. The same kind of compassion I'm supporting in this case.
I think this is a pretty good analogy, but the only flaw is that I wouldn't starve my pet to death. I'd make it quick. Wouldn't you agree?

It's not appropriate to apply the same ethical standards to fellow human beings that we do to animals (even pets).


Why not? Aren't animals living, breathing, THINKING and emotional beings as well?
Oh, boy. I hope you've never stepped on a worm in your life, with that philosophy.

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Sandman wrote:
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Sandman wrote:
It's not appropriate to apply the same ethical standards to fellow human beings that we do to animals (even pets).

Why not? Aren't animals living, breathing, THINKING and emotional beings as well?

Well, okay. Just know you're way out of the mainstream.


Which mainstream? Any Buddhist would agree..As well as many Christians, agnostics and atheists.

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Rich L. wrote:
GTRMAN wrote:
Sandman wrote:
Rich L. wrote:
GTRMAN wrote:
Tell me something. Have you ever had a pet that was so sick or feeble that you had them euthanized because you didn't want to see them suffer? You were showing compassion. The same kind of compassion I'm supporting in this case.
I think this is a pretty good analogy, but the only flaw is that I wouldn't starve my pet to death. I'd make it quick. Wouldn't you agree?

It's not appropriate to apply the same ethical standards to fellow human beings that we do to animals (even pets).


Why not? Aren't animals living, breathing, THINKING and emotional beings as well?
Oh, boy. I hope you've never stepped on a worm in your life, with that philosophy.


I never intentionally kill if it can be helped.

I'm arachnophobic to the extreme yet I will not kill a spider in my house. I will find a way, instead, to get it outside.

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Sandman wrote:
GTRMAN wrote:
Rich L. wrote:
GTRMAN wrote:
Yep.. Unfortunately, the "conservatives" in this country won't allow for that. Unfortunately, this is the only way to legally go about it.
OOOOOOH! :evil: Damn those conservatives, eh Gtrman?

Is it not true?

No, it's not.


Please elaborate.

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I am getting the impression that some people want her to remain alive just so her husband doesn't inherit anything. From her current state of being, what is the best thing for her? Doc?


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The courts viewed all the evidence and found no merit to any of your points. That is why they allowed the feeding tube be removed. Why do you ignore it?

Because, respectfully, the courts don't do my thinking for me. I don't believe courts always get it right. So I'm open minded to the possibility that something may not be as it seems.

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Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:54 pm
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Sandman wrote:
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The courts viewed all the evidence and found no merit to any of your points. That is why they allowed the feeding tube be removed. Why do you ignore it?

Because, respectfully, the courts don't do my thinking for me. I don't believe courts always get it right. So I'm open minded to the possibility that something may not be as it seems.


However, it may come to a point someday that the courts WILL do your thinking for you.

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EKG wrote:
I am getting the impression that some people want her to remain alive just so her husband doesn't inherit anything. From her current state of being, what is the best thing for her? Doc?


I get the same impression. However, I do not believe in life at all costs. At what point do we let nature take it's course?

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From her current state of being, what is the best thing for her? Doc?


The best thing for her is to respect her wishes. Everybody has to make that decision for themselves. I would never want to be kept alive in such a condition. Others would make a different choice. The only factor in this case that is important is knowing what her wishes were. Unfortunately, I wouldn't trust either her husband or her parents to truthfully express her wishes (if she ever expressed them to anyone). As I've said before, I don't know what the correct answer is.

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How many people WOULD want to stay in this condition?
Even though I have nothing in writing (yet), if something happened to me, most family and friends know that I do NOT want to "hang on". Well, now everyone who reads this knows.

I agree that you can't believe either the husband or the parents. It surely seems they are looking out for THEIR best interest instead of HERS.


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EKG wrote:
How many people WOULD want to stay in this condition?
Even though I have nothing in writing (yet), if something happened to me, most family and friends know that I do NOT want to "hang on". Well, now everyone who reads this knows.

I agree that you can't believe either the husband or the parents. It surely seems they are looking out for THEIR best interest instead of HERS.


Let it be known that I wouldn't want to continue on like that, either. To me, there is a big difference between living and existing.

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She die yet? how many days has it been?


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She die yet? how many days has it been?


It's been about five days.. She will likely last about another week.

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