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Remember the price of the "regular" PGMs has gone up (401, 300RE and 100RE).

I think the FRM will be around 2000...

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So we need to start a guessing game regarding how much it is going to cost! Whoever wins get a cookie! :chew:

My guess = £899 / $1415.



Well it depends, will the Fireman have Pual Gilbert's name attached to it? If so then obviously the price tag will be higher.

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If it is sold as the "Ibanez Fireman" then I guess around $800

If it is sold as the "Paul Gilbert Fireman" then I guess around $1,500

BTW these guesses are not list price, but the actual price that the music stores end up selling them for (eveyone knows that you never actually pay list price :wink: )

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Rich Harris' guess at list prices (and it would be a brave man who second guesses him...):

If Indonesian made - $2499
If Japanese made - $4299


Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:41 pm
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That's totally NOT affordable!

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Indonesian 2499? That's BS. Might as well get a freakin' Suhr.


Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:34 pm
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I'd be glad to see a production fireman, I really like the look of Pauls red Fireman. I think i like it better than the FRM1.

Making a guitar more affordable than $6K isn't too hard. Around $1.5K street price sounds reasonable to me for a well made signature model. I could see them charging up to maybe 2K. I hope it doesn't go too much higher than that, unless maybe it comes with all kinds of extras like the FRM1 and FRM2 did.

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I doubt everybody's getting that sweet combo the 50 original FRM1 and 2 had.

Again, I'd love to see the H-H one available, but considering that Paul has just released the Injectors, maybe we're not gonna see a H-H PGM too soon...

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common guys, your guessing too low. The PGM401 Streets at 2299.99. I can guarantee it won't be even close to under 2000.

however Ibanez, if you would like to prove me wrong, be my guest.


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^^

I agree totally. Fireman should be totally affordable. For those with a six figure salary/trust fund :chew:

But any die hard fan zould pay thos kind of prices. That's what counts :P


Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:28 pm
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lets be honest here, everyones definition of affordable is going to be different based on their financial situation. Pretty sure that Pauls situation is probably pretty darn good im sure, so $2400 for him is affordable....for a typical student going to school, $400 might be affordable......man i wish paul was a typical college student...


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But Paul has said the most he's ever paid for a guitar was around US$1800,00!

For me, when he says "affordable" it should be around that!

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I don't know how much control Paul has over pricing. If its made in japan it probably will have a street price of 1500-2500+ like other Japanese made signature models. If its made somewhere cheaper it could be $600-800 like other non japanese signature models.

Some of the other Ibanez artists have two versions of their signature model. One japanese made one in the higher price range and another in the lower price range. They could do the same with the Fireman if they wanted.

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Someone said in another thread that he heard Paul has a couple of prototypes waiting for him when he gets home (think it was in the PG tour thread). That makes me think that the new retail PGM won't have the exact spec of the one Paul currently is using.

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The "mass" production version is said to have a thinner neck profile.
I believe it was Paul who said that as part of his 'rumor' in the Injector pickup video.
If not, it's something he told one of the VIP students/people he met after the shows this year, and I saw it in a discussion thread or in a review... possibly Magnus Olsson's.
(I wonder what those prototypes look like! Hopefully they will surface in some video or on a tour...)

Questions for builders and people who have tried out the Fireman: Would a basswood guitar be lighter then a korina guitar (same body style)? How much does the korina Fireman weigh, anyway? It seems like it's a heavier guitar, because it's bigger then the usual shape, but I have no idea... nobody has ever mentioned it's weight, only it's neck profile.

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flying-dino wrote:
Would a basswood guitar be lighter then a korina guitar (same body style)?


Basswood is a very light and very soft wood. So the answer is yes

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...also we don't know for sure that basswood is going to be the wood that the production line Firemen will be made of. That was just a guess on my part since Ibanez tends to favor basswood. Most of the Satch models, PGMs, and RGs are made of basswood.

However Ibanez does make non basswood guitars such as the Jem which is made of alder, and the S series which is made of mahogany. :wink:

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flying-dino wrote:
The "mass" production version is said to have a thinner neck profile.

Its from the video, and he made a point to say that the neck was minutely thinner


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The S if they made it with basswood would sound so weird. I mean it doesn't even sound so mahogany-ish cause of how thin it is. It doesn't cost them much to use mahogany cause of that too.


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Their current Iceman guitars (ICT700, and STM1)are made of mahogany. They could easily use the same mahogany blanks to make the Fireman.

Ibanez uses mahogany on quite a few models including the entire X series, and the JTK models.

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We'll won't know before NAMM 2011, but my best bet is like most of you guys': US$ 2000+

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