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Dammit.

Dammit dammit dammit.

I just can't take it anymore.

I e-mailed Rich @ Ibanez Rules about a Fireman.

I thought about a custom copy but I think I'd rather have an original.

Paul says it's worth it (after I e-mailed him complaining about it :P) so I'm gonna go for it.

What the hell and damn the torpedoes.


Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:24 pm
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Jack Secret wrote:
Dammit.

Dammit dammit dammit.

I just can't take it anymore.

I e-mailed Rich @ Ibanez Rules about a Fireman.

I thought about a custom copy but I think I'd rather have an original.

Paul says it's worth it (after I e-mailed him complaining about it :P) so I'm gonna go for it.

What the hell and damn the torpedoes.



Go for it, you wont regret it, its an amazing guitar


Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:18 am
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elfranchicano wrote:
Hi Jaden

I don't remember where I saw these specs with 25,5" scale but I saw it. I think it was a mistake and the correct scale is 24,75" as it appears in the ibanez PGM fireman page.

I'm considering building a custom fireman. Do you think it would sound great also with a neck thru instead of a set in neck ?


It was a mistake on the Ibanez website initially

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Aaaaa

Thank you.

I knew for sure I saw it.

Jaden, do you have any template or CAD drawing for a 24,75" neck ? or a 1:1 scale picture ?

Thank you


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yes of course I have a CAD drawing for that scale length, no useable pictures as I import into CAD and scale to known referance points..

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OK

My problem is that I'm using google sketch up and and I would like to have a very accurate drawing and an exact 1:1 scale which is difficult with sketch up.

Is it possible you send me this ?


Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:40 pm
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New question on the fireman neck.

We now know that it's a 24,75 scale. The shape looks like quite different from the other ibanez guitars.

Is it in fact a kind of Gibson neck ?


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elfranchicano wrote:
New question on the fireman neck.

We now know that it's a 24,75 scale. The shape looks like quite different from the other ibanez guitars.

Is it in fact a kind of Gibson neck ?


There are measurements on the Ibanez website.

Fireman
Width at nut: 43.5mm
Width at last fret: 56.78mm
Thickness at 1st fret: 22.5mm
Thickness at 12th fret:36mm
radius: 305mm

Compared to the current PGM profile
Width at Nut 43mm
Width Last Fret 58mm
Thickness 1st Fret 18mm
Thickness 12th Fret 20mm
Radius 430mm

Gibson's are typically thicker than even the fireman profile. Thickness at the first fret measured on a variety of models from different years range from 19mm to 24 mm. Thickness at the 12th fret would be a few mm larger than at the 1st. The radius of a Les Paul neck is usually around 12" which is around 305mm.

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look at the specs - its a thick thick neck !

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but that doesnt stop you from shredding. Believe me. I recently got a Gibson R6. Thats like the second thickest neck available. Only beaten by the R8 that i know of.

And i honestly think its easier to play fast with. Maybe cause i play baseballbat style and it fits better inside my hand.


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orsvend wrote:
And i honestly think its easier to play fast with. Maybe cause i play baseballbat style and it fits better inside my hand.


It is atleast for me. I have the Kotzen Tele and it's great! Huge neck and tall frets!

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orsvend wrote:
but that doesnt stop you from shredding. Believe me. I recently got a Gibson R6. Thats like the second thickest neck available. Only beaten by the R8 that i know of.

And i honestly think its easier to play fast with. Maybe cause i play baseballbat style and it fits better inside my hand.


Gibson neck profiles vary quite a bit on the historics. There are some R7's that have necks that are just as thick as R8's. I have also seen R7 measurements that were smaller than most R9's.

I think the actual shape of the neck is more important than the thickness. A thinner neck with bigger shoulders may feel thicker than a thicker neck with a different profile.

I like larger necks because my hands don't get fatigued as fast so I can play longer.

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